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They understand that it nothing but -- at what point -- i mean, do you see anybody in the party standing up and trying to at that we can't destroy our sen e senate. >> there are advisers who tell him he doesn't have to worry quite so much about the base. if for some reason the wall doesn't get build or and who believes they're fighting for the things he believed in it. they seem him as sharing their values and their fears and their concerns about the bothereder. so there are those who are telling him he has more wiggle room there han he might thing pb

Where we need the investment is on better technology, better sensors, better enforcement, not on a wall which is a 15th century idea. maria: but what's wrong with the wall? you're not going to leave your doors unlocked and let anybody come in. you have a wall and concrete stopping from strangers coming in. can you really say a wall doesn't work? >> well i think we have more technology right? in my house, i don't have a voila round it but i have an alarm system but i think if you're going to look at what the marginal benefit of investments are, you will get more from funding some of these techn...

Obstruction and makes it more difficult it's a pass jiffive security measure to control access. >> i'm sure you would rather have technology that you can deploy people to meet people trying to cross the border rather than a wall. >> it's not even solving a real problem. >> please explain to me how a wall. what is a drone going to do that a wall doesn't. go. >> it will see what's going on over hundreds of miles. judge jeanine: over here, over there. dana: he just said we don't have

Obstruction and makes it more difficult it's a pass jiffive control access. >> i'm sure you would rather have technology that you can deploy people to meet people trying to cross the border rather than a wall. >> it's not even solving a real problem. >> please explain to me how a wall. what is a drone going to do that a wall doesn't. go. >> it will see what's going on over hundreds of miles. judge jeanine: over here, over there.

Obstruction and makes it more difficult it's a pass jiffive security measure to control access. >> i'm sure you would rather have technology that you can deploy people to meet people trying to cross the border rather than a wall. >> it's not even solving a real problem. >> please explain to me how a wall. what is a drone going to do that a wall doesn't. go. >> it will see what's going on over hundreds of miles. judge jeanine: over here, over there. dana: he just said we don't have