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That would be a considerable shift for this president assuming that he -- that he is going to give up on this wall idea in some way. we don't have an understanding of what a down payment would be and what democrats would be willing to do, but i do this you're right that everyone is now looking for an off ramp. don't forget that a side drama today is democrats working on their appropriations bill for dhs. they don't want us to characterize is as a count er bill for the president, but saying you can have more money, but you can't use it to build a new wall, but that to me signalled that it didn'...

But -- >> but just to piggyback on that, i was talking to some white house officials yesterday. even though the president just on sfri safriday said he was no interested in doing this whole lindsey graham daca wall idea, people in the white house think all of a sudden he is interested in it again. this is a problem again, he keeps flip flopping. does he want to do a deal? does he not want to do a deal? that's why they don't trust him. some democrats are feeling some heat back home and do want to do some sort of compromise. yesterday i was hearing from the white house that this week there's a t...

They want to present differences between themselves and their rivals in the democratic party and present some affirmative vision for what they want to do but ultimately they'll have to prove to democratic voters they have a strategy because they were unable to do that in 2016. he's a difficult politician to campaign against. he has an ability to suck up all the oxygen and find the debate about him. >> there's some reason to believe he'll try to pick his opponent by engaging in some of the combat with him. anyone tells you may have any idea how the democratic race is going to turn out is making...

Clear how the government gets reopened. what does he sign? what comes out of the house that the senate agrees to? so this looks worse almost by the day. >> and the degree to which he has miscalculated and misunderstood nancy pelosi at this early stage in the game is quite striking. in the first situation room meeting right after the first of the year before she became speaker, he said, once you get past the speaker election, once you get the gavel, you'll be more willing to make a deal with us. are you kidding? she got more leverage, if anything, thaand was more willi to, in a mode of, i've go...

For those of us seeing those headlines and wondering what was behind this, it's amazing to know this many months later that the fbi was actually taking those developments seriously enough to think that they needed to investigate them, and they still, as you pointed out, are the subject of the special counsel. >> now it's mueller's job. we now know that at least 16 trump official contacts, trump business orbit with russia during the campaign. we didn't know all that back then. we didn't know the president was lying about the depth of his russia business dealings. the fbi did know about this bec...