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Voters all along or he has no idea how to get it done and zero interest in finding out. in other words, trump is doing exactly what i feared he would do in the worst conceivable way. he's not building the wall while making ridiculous promises right up until the second before he folds." say what you will about ann coulter, but she heard all the same rallies the rest of us did. what does that mean, that he's lost ann coulter? >> he lost ann coulter a while ago, and she has been on fire about this wall issue for some time. the bigger question is whether he loses mark levin and rush limbaugh, whet...

The wall or that tariffs that come as a result of it would put more money in the treasury, which would then help pay for the wall. but economists and trade experts i talked to say this is not a particularly logical argument. one, the money isn't there now. two, money from taxpayers is not mexico. and tariffs are paid for by the consumers, by the goods in the country that is applying the tariffs, not in the country that's producing those goods. so we are mexico. we would be indirectly paying for the wall, americans. >> and on this the president has lost some big name conservatives. laura ingrah...

60% of college educated whites. so again, this is an indication as matt correctly says, that the president is invariably focussed on his base. but the base are not the only people who vote, as we were reminded. i will also note that in 2020 you have republican senators, unlike the 2018 environment, in places like maine and choleolor that are trending democratic and where this politics is kind of a sentence for ending their careers. >> matt, you have seen some republican commentators that say that in the data -- forget their opinions, but in the data from the midterms that the wall issue, the i...

Wall, this would be a win but you got to remember, the border security is not just about a wall. really, i mean, there are many people, many critics of this wall issue who say that this is about controlling the browning of america, plain and simple. yes, there's issues of terrorism. yes, there's issues of -- you have issues of drug trafficking and some criminals maybe, but at the same time, it's not just about a wall. if you really want to talk about fixing the border, deal with other issues like trafficking through those trucks. you have smuggling people over the border. there are other issue...

Get anything done. >> i don't agree. he campaigned on the wall and now he's had two years where his party controlled the house and the senate and funding hasn't happened. if you listen to mcconnell and ryan, they're ignoring the president. they have been doing this for a year and a half. this wall issue, the party that he's a part of has not prioritized it and if you remember trump has threatened a shutdown over this wall, he did it last year, this year. he's done this threat before and not followed through. i think this is a bluff, i think republican leaders know that and will ignore that for...