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Kinds of ways, starting post 9/11, cvp, work force has gone up, spending has gone up. you say you don't think any of that has been good for the country? >> it's perverse. the response to legitimate concerns and problems. international terrorism orchestrated by al qaeda, carried out by people from saudi arabia, we punish people from mexico, deport 400,000 mexican nationals from a response to 9/11. wall off 600 miles of the u.s./mx co border precisely zero terrirists or terririst organizations have used the border to attack a sidge american. so we do this whether it's the war on terrier, the war...

Mexico, deport 400,000 mexican nationals from a response to 9/11. wall off 600 miles of the u.s./mx co border precisely zero terrirists or terririst organizations have used the border to attack a sidge american. so we do this whether it's the war on terrier, the war on drugs. we project our fears and anxieties el paso and punish the people who love here. there's no reason to do that. but it is the fear and the ang zu zity that is stoked by people who frankly should know better. >> father of three. hope you have valentine's day plans >> i do. we're going to see willy nelson. >> the site of what...

>> no, we met on a blind date in el paso before tindr and took her over the bridge to her sister city. had a margarita at the kentucky club and we just really hit it off and i tell that story to folks to kind of remind them of the bi-national nature of the u.s./mexico border. cities like those in el paso we're one community. it's beautiful. nothing to be ashamed of, defensive about or wall off. it's part of who we are. it's part of our story. >> question from erica. >> how invested are you of protecting the rights of lgbtq citizens even when the transgender rights are being questioned. >> very...

Flow. and the changes on chain miergs. >> you think there are other things more effective than the wall would be. >> yeah. like we loosely talk about border security. but if you know louise gutierrez, the liberal democrat writes a border security bill with $20 billion in funding and the the conservative from virginia writes a border funding bill with $20 billion in funding they can be totally different even though they look the same at the top line. the details on various authorities and legalities are important. >> so here is the president tweeted tonight responding to senate minority leader ...

>> i would do the e-verify system before the wall. where you have the employers make them confirm their employees are legal. >> got it. >> which would help cut off the flow. and the changes of chain migration. >> you think there are other things more effective than the wall would be? >> yeah. like we loosely talk about border security. but if you know louise gutierrez, the liberal democrat writes a border security bill with $20 billion in funding and the the conservative from virginia writes a border funding bill with $20 billion in funding they can be totally different even though they look t...