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Wall around the capitol. are there police officers, video cameras, barrier checkpoints? yes. is the capitol at risk of invasi invasion? >> in your state between san diego and tijuana, there is a wall, right? >> there are -- >> neil: that works like a charms, right? >> the security -- well, the president doesn't think so. i think that we could beef up border patrol agents, more technology, check the port of entries -- >> neil: that's an effective wall. that's an effective wall. >> it's not a contiguous wall -- >> neil: i understand. you're -- >> you're describing -- >> neil: this is what it com...

For a border wall in a funding bill. the president is changing the sales pitch. he was talking ant a concrete wall across the southern border. then he talked about a steel barrier. now he's changed that to a greater degree to say this isn't just steel and wire. this is also electronics, technology. call it a smart wall. listen here. >> the walls we are building are not medieval walls. they are smart walls designed to meet the needs of front-line border agents. we do not need 2,000 miles of concrete wall from sea to shiny sea. we never did. we never proposed that. >> what is ironic about that i...

They're getting by. being connected to that experience, that american struggle helps me project out what the solutions can be. >> neil: congressman, let's talk about the shut down. there's going to be votes tonight on ending this. >> i hope. >> neil: the president still wants in the next three weeks, you guys to consider a wall or funding for a wall. would you? >> i will consider anything we can do that efficiently and wisely makes our country safer without losing -- >> neil: that's -- would you consider -- >> not a wall. a wall to me is contiguous. >> neil: would you then share the view that ...

With that? steny hoyer did not. nor did he have a problem, for example, with the president giving his state of the union address from the well of the house. are all of you on the same page on this stuff? >> yes. as described -- trump's wall is immoral. >> neil: what is immoral about his wall? >> because surrounding -- putting a wall sea to shining sea -- >> neil: he's not going to put it across 2,000 miles. >> he hasn't articulated where he needs it. we pressed him in these meetings, show us the vulnerabilities. are you going to put a wall up against the rio grande? is that -- >> neil: he made...

Cause. he will not give up if they don't propose something that goes through by february 15. he will shut down the government again or he will call a national emergency. >> neil: i don't think he will do that. a.b. -- >> he will. he's not caving. >> neil: prove me wrong. but a.b., once burns, more than twice shy. i don't know what will happen. maybe something that won't be what he wants on a border wall or whatever it's called but i don't think he wants to go into that fire again. do you? >> no way. he's not going to shut the government down again. the democrats are not going to give him money...