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We're just made of money and this is how we have a record debt level? this is why we have the federal reserve boss talking about debt worries him more than anything else. >> debt is one of the fundamental issues, national security crisis. defense secretary said one of the biggest issues we face. we need to balance the budget. >> neil: you never, ever do. >> the first duty of government is to defend the united states of america from enemies foreign and domestic. >> neil: that includes financial security as well. you wouldn't like it if it was turned around and a creme democratic administration ...

And tougher for those people . if you really want to find furloughed right now and we've out how effective a wall is, got representative, a democrat from california, member armed just as israel. services committee who has 99.9% effective and our wall admitted we need border security will be ever bit as good as that so what's behind all of this is this fight over the border wall. if not better. look at all of the countries i'm excited to hear what he has to say and by the way on the that have walls and they work apple story tomorrow i'll be in 100%. >> from israel to the vatican, san francisc...

Would do a lot of heavy lifting on this money bill. the leadership staff. i don't think that the public is clamoring one way or another on this. and they are shielded i think from some of the really negative effects of a partial government shutdown because i flew back from visiting friends and family in phoenix the other day, and the tsa was there to make sure that everybody was safe. >> rick: the federal workers are going to keep going to work, but they won't get paid until lawmakers settle this. coming back this afternoon, and the president points out that the democrats wanted some sort of w...

In and not give in additional wall funding, i'd want the whole 5 billion because the caravan is a game changer. 1.6 is available to the president and he wants five and after the caravan if you don't see the need for additional border security, you're just not paying much attention so mr. president, dig in, do not give in when it comes to the wall. maria: but isn't it the senate whose stopping this? every time we ask a congressman they say it's passed we've got the money in the house, it's the senate. >> well you'll have the speaker of the house who will be in charge next year. what about next ...

>> let me pick up on the point we are just hearing. is this deal you think something that immigration supporters can fundamentally accept because we will put up on screen for you what the deal generally says which is allow 1.8 million young immigrants to become citizens. $25 billion in spend awning border wall and security. restrictions on family-based immigration what is sometimes referred to as chain migration and an end to the visa lottery system. in a nutshell, is this too much for immigrant supporters, those who support a more lax immigration policy or perhaps even the democrats to give t...