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Of this. did he authorize them to use customer money to cover that bet? >> right. i think as the investigation has borne out, based again on my interview of jon corzine i think we'll find out that he did. martha: why do you say that? >> well, it is very simple. he did not admit to knowing about "the wall street journal" article about window-dressing. there is only one reason not to tell the truth about that. and that is because he has other things to hide. so he doesn't want to go down a road of starting to tell some truths. he just did a blanket, i don't know. i don't recall. i'm not sure. i ...

Congressman, welcome. sum up for everybody at home what you were trying to get at there. >> sure. well, i mean, there's no question that jon corzine was being evasive. he wasn't directly answering the questions. he was dancing around the issues and start talking about something somewhat relevant but wasn't really on point and it was really borne out of frustration. i decided to ratchet it up a little bit and ask, very, very pointed questions so he wouldn't have much wiggle room but i think it really exposed itself when i asked him about window-dressing. he became very, very uncomfortable becau...