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Advantage of these again very vulnerable populations, bring them on our journeys to our border and oftentimes abuse them along the way. it is, again, an ongoing challenge for us at customs and border protection and our ice colleagues as well as we continue to try to defend and to secure the border. >> commissioner, you know the president wants a wall. he's proposed $5.6 billion as a down payment on this continues wall. democrats are not budging. is it your sense that this is going to drag on for quite a while hence the problems that you're addressing at the border drag on for quite a while? >>...

Do we trust representative hakim jeffries from new york or trust our border patrol? todd: to that point in 2006 everybody was for a structure to protect the border. and everybody sort of thinks this is just donald trump's idea. no, this isn't just donald trump's idea. like you are about to say, this is what the border patrol wants. the men and women opt ground on day in and day out basis, they want some help. and as evidence of that commissioner kevin mclean says this investment in border security which includes some type of a structure. take a listen. >> our wall system priorities are derived...

President to stay tough on this issue. others folding in from the freedom caucus. mark meadows, are those leaders right when they say this is what the american public wants? i don't know about that. >> this is what donald trump's base wants. i've never seen the president, as i said in the beginning, at risk with his base. this is the one potential time where they see him -- they're watching tv. they see he's caving on this. >> what the american people want, they want lawmakers to get together and come up with a plan. everybody wants border security. they yell at democrats, you don't want borde...

The government open. let me be very clear -- the administration cannot re-program funds appropriated by congress for the full wall without our consent. >> melissa: earlier today, white house counselor kellyanne conway pushing back on reports that the president is backing down on border security. watch this. >> congress is going to put before him a short-term cr, that goes through february 8th. it keeps the government up and running trade that doesn't mean the president is backing down from a sensual promise. it's not a campaign promise, it's a promise from him to keep us safe. >> melissa: pres...

>> katie: jared kushner is the one to push it through. not as a politician, someone who can work with both sides in a quiet fashion who is not interested in the credit and the glory and the camera time. that's how you get it done. i think we will have to see if the bill produces the results that they claim it will. we will see the implications of it over the next ten or 20 year years. watching the process is an interesting one. it can be studied in a way that is beneficial to people understanding how it works. >> melissa: that's a point that kennedy made a while ago, when we were talking about...