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>> harris: you've got to bring it up. there was -- it was very -- the bottom line is, can you go forth with something other than kicking this down as democrats? >> first of all, i'm not that desperate. that at the end of the year -- listen, i've got a husband that wants to see me home for christmas. he is not happy. but we are not that desperate that we are going to take that public policy. i am somebody that thinks that compromise isn't a bad word. but, you know -- the wall is not -- there are a lot of studies out there that show technology is a lot better and a better way to keep our borders...

Of course, we need the infrastructure, the wall system to give the agents the tools that they need. ainsley: is it frustrating when you are spending your life's work down there and you want laws to change and congress isn't listening? >> well, yeah. it's not only frustrating but it's border security. border security is national security. so it's difficult to see that the agents are doing everything that they can. we are doing everything that we can with our partners. it just requires congressional action to fill or to, you know, take care of these two patrol car sets. brian: are the troops hel...

Thursday. we will see the senate follow suit shortly thereafter. that is significant because democrats have been pushing for one week. that would put us so much more shy of the holiday season. i was reading this morning how busy this fridays expect it to be. by the way, we have proven as a country via our government that they don't do big things well. so, why can't we piecemeal this? why can't we do the wall system, which is what you are talking about? even the president has called it that. you can put a structure in every place. you fill in with ice and the border patrol where you need to. we...

There's a lot of geographic reasons why you can't build a solid wall along our border. what do we need? we need to fill in those gaps. those forest areas, with more ice and border patrol. it's a wall system. you don't even have to take my word for it. when you look at the plan, and we look at it with president is asking for, that $5 billion does more than a structure. it also shows up with democrats at del mike agreed to. in 2006 they built some hard fencing or walls, and now they need restoration all these years later. pace for some of that, too. >> leslie: i don't disagree with the restorati...

So i think there's some room to negotiate on that. i think that democrats will probably stand fairly strong on a lower amount unless they get something in return but i don't think any of us want to shut down the government. there will be some negotiating, some back and forth on it but i think we will know in the next ten days what the final outcome with regard to the border security issues will be for this year. >> harris: i know it was reported yesterday that there was some discussion between the president and lawmakers on this issue and trying to get that money into the spending bill and it'...