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Transpires. >> went the secretary alluded that this is a good enforcement zone for us. we have footprints that we can track in the sand here, so we will be tracking this with cameras, lighting and sensors. this is a much older type of fence that we are improving right now with president trump's border wall investments, we put about 30 miles in the ground already, and this is a modern wall system up front. >> martha: as was a secure fence act in 2006, but it's not working obviously. it looks good when you look at it, how is it failing? >> defense is about ten years old, and, so we have had to a...

Talking about with the violent offenders we saw in the mollie tibbetts case, the push among those like you is to get rid of i.c.e., you say you want to keep it. where do you meet in the middle with those in your own party? >> i'm always happy to buck my party, and everyone knows i've been doing that for years. i'm not alone to stand up for what is right. i voted for kate's law, if someone has been deported and re-enters illegally and commits a crime, they have harsher penalties and face deportation. i broke with my party to vote for kate's law, arizonans know if you break the law, you should b...

Makes my job easier. elizabeth brantley, something you told our team stood out, you are for the president's wall system. you are pro wall, why? >> i am inclined to support anything that would make the task of securing the border less dangerous for our agents. having said that, i realize it is an issue that we'll have many facets to correct it, but i do believe a border wall is a part of that solution. harris: let's hear from somebody who is anti-wall quickly and want to go to stakeholders. elaine mcguire, you say the money for the wall could be better spent. why do you say that? >> well, with ...

Offenders we saw in the mollie tibbetts case, the push among those like you is to get rid of i.c.e., you say you want to keep it. where do you meet in the middle with those in your own party? >> i'm always happy to buck my party, and everyone knows i've been doing that for years. i'm not alone to stand up for what is right. i voted for kate's law, if someone has been deported and re-enters illegally and commits a crime, they have harsher penalties and face deportation. i broke with my party to vote for kate's law, arizonans know if you break the law, you should be held accountable and deported...

Votes. here's what i resent, alisyn. this change in policy announced by this administration is being used to create a crisis and is being used for the president to try and get his border wall and some very far right -- >> i get it. >> it is wrong to use children as bargaining chips. >> everybody agrees with you. but that's where we are. if the democrats have to cave on the border wall, i know that would require holding your nose and that seems so counter to what you want. >> we already did that. alisyn, the bill that i co-sponsored did that. it in exchange for a pathway to citizenship for 1.3 ...