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Into the details there is more common ground than they thought. >> i think he wants the best possible deal for border security, he wants to make sure it's right. and we're fine with that. >> do either of you believe whatever kind of wall, that's the the another point of confusion, kelly saying one thing, reasonable minds saying something else. the president on twitter doubled down saying it has never changed, never evolved. do either of you think mexico is going to wind up paying for the wall? >> no. >> no. >> not even an attempt to keep a straight face. angus, you're usually better keeping a ...

>> and so i have been struck by your use of the phrase wall system, and just want to explore with you a little bit what you mean by that. one of the people that i take advice from is the rio grande valley border sector chief manny padilla, who i believe you were with recently, who has told me that in his vast experience, and the border patrol, that border security is composed of three elements. he said infrastructure is important. you can call it a secure fence as we did in 2006, you can call it a wall as the president does from time to time. but it includes not only that infrastructure, but a...

The wall system therefore is infrastructure, technology, personnel and add it is closing the loopholes that we can promptly remove those with interdict. we look at four main mission sets. impedance and denial granted through the infrastructure. demain awareness and the cameras. access and mobility so border patrol agents can respond to threats and then we look at mission readiness. having the personnel we need to do the job. >> because of the impact to local communities and in texas and elsewhere along the border, do you have any objection to consulting with local stakeholders as they try to c...

Use of the phrase "wall system" and just want to explore with you a little bit what you mean by that. one of the people that i've taken advice from is rio grande valley border sector chief mandy padio, who i believe you were with recently. he told me in his vast experience with the border patrol, that border security is composed of three elements. infrastructure is important. you can call it a secure fence, as we did in 2006. you can call it a wall, as the president does from time to time. but it includes not only the infrastructure but also technology. of course, the border patrol agents to b...

You know, to look at operational control of the border. the wall system, therefore, is infrastructure, technology, personnel and i would add, it is also closing the loopholes so we can promptly remove those necessary. we look at impedimpedence and d. do nation awareness, the sensors and cameras, et cetera. access and mobility, so the border patrol agents can respond to threats. then we look at mission readiness, which is having the personnel that we need to be able to do the job. >> because of the impact to local communities in texas and elsewhere along the border. do you have any objection to...