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Through the fence and say a wall won't work is out of their minds. i understand the tariffs are a blunt instrument and not the right tool necessarily to deal with this problem. for the people who say that, okay, fine, give him the tools he needs. he made a request for border funding it did not include money for the wall and congress has done nothing. if you don't want him to use the blunt instrument of tariffs, give him the tools he needs to secure the border and stop complaining about approximate the tariffs. >> bret: the dow took a big hit today. the announcement and where it was today. not ...

Way, not only in the mid-terms >> they're overwhelmed. >> with the humanitarian crisis of people seeking legitimately and under law to become americans. >> i really think both sides are being disingenuous are the issue. democrats are denying that fact we can't absorb the refugees fleeing terrorism in central and south america. there is such a high proportion of displaced peoples all around europe and the middle east. 4 million leaving venezuela in -- 3 million in four years. this is a problem everywhere. we can no longer take in the amount of people. it is not criminals coming in with their fe...

And pogo has documents showing he signed into place the separation policy. i just think -- i can't say it enough. we have to remember the numbers are going up. and the reason the numbers are going up are not because of some crazy phenomenon we've never seen before. donald trump and his policy and rhetoric are encouraging people in some cases, forcing people in other cases, to cross the border illegally. we saw it at the end of the obama administration. >> doesn't that help his argument for the wall. when democrats say a wall won't work and people run for the border because the wall is coming. ...

State of the union speech. that announcement hot off the heels of a phone call between president trump and house speaker nancy pelosi. we are told the pair spoke about infrastructure. they did not talk about the wall which still remains at the crux of negotiations to fund the government by february 15. if no deal is struck, another shutdown is possible. this as a brand new "washington post" poll shows 53% blame president trump and congress for shutdown. joining me now is democratic senator bob casey of the keystone state of pennsylvania. thank you for joining us. >> good to be with you. thank ...

They would've for billions of dollars of border security but it is true they are denying the president saying a wall won't work. 234 miles. basically same thing in the past. zero it's good to see you. >> and for having me. eric: republicans urging their democratic colleagues to back president trump's proposal. >> i sincerely hope that our colleagues across the aisle will work with us on this. but then they shut down puzzle is border security. eric: we will speak to a democrat to see if there's any room for negotiation. as thousands of central american migrants finished their march towards the ...