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Of physical barriers is "in immorality" it seems like democrats are happy to take their cues from the lady from san francisco and her extreme position. >> bret: do you agree with that? >> i don't agree with that. i don't think this is an issue of morality, it is an issue up, does it work? other members of the united states and it put question whether a wall works, whether that is the best way to secure the border. are some restraints -- we have supported substantial restraints. we have supported other technologies. my own view is that this is not an issue of morality, a well is immoral if it t...

This for federal workers. good luck out there. >> thank you. joining me our correspondent jacob soboroff and jonathan lamier. >> jacob, i want to start with you, the wall came up and congressman kept on saying once a wall, a wall works. you got reporting about the wall and the ways in which it could be tunnelled under. >> listen to the congressman, i have to say the reality is he's correct in so far as wall havs gone up and illegal crossings have gone down. those border crossers have moved into dangerous area resulting in a type of death that we saw in young children two weeks ago. the presi...

Immigration and overall crime drastically reduced in this area. the wall works, experts say it works and we have historical data that shows that. jillian: illegal traffic is dropped 90% where walls are located in el paso and san diego. a lot of people, frustrating when you hear men and women, border patrol agents, and people are not listening to them. >> everyone who utters the words the wall is ineffective are lying to the american people and i use that language on purpose because that is accurate, they are absolutely misleading and lying to the american people. the walls work and we can prov...

Wall you all have in the tucson sector. >> so obviously, when you get near the ports of entries, the structures look a lot better, a lot more secure. i will add that in those areas, several years ago when we did not have that type of structure, the numbers of individuals crossing illegally through there were very high. when we put those barriers up, it dropped the numbers astronomically. what did that cause, though? it did cause for a lot of these individuals to try and cross into the united states illegally outside of the cities in other areas, but the areas that we do have it, it's lowered t...

>> you know, it's obviously when you start polling everyone as a whole, you are going to have different ideas and obviously, when it gets closer and the numbers get crunched -- kristin: i mean give me an idea. would you say most are with him or against him? >> i conducted a poll. we conducted a poll. i can tell you of the people that we conducted, it was over 90% of the individuals that said that they know the wall works. and they know that that is a big deal. just before i came on here, i received a text message from an agent out of san diego where they are telling me hey, we missed christmas...