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Rather -- >> jason: i think included the democrats of the issue but i don't think it resonates to the american people. i think they know that this president is fighting to secure the border. last question. you spent decades in the service, you understand the border patrol, you understand customs and immigration -- immigrations and customs enforcement. what do you think they would say to the president and the members of the congress and the house and senate that have to go to mess? to the order they not want a wall? >> they want a wall. the men and women on the border, i wore that green uniform...

Fencing and other physical structures are located. i think that -- >> trish: okay, but i am talking about more than repair work that needs to be done. >> yeah, i think that what we are hearing, especially from border state lawmakers, for instance, a republican that represents the most miles of the mexican-american border, i wall does not work, it is unwise, ineffective, and it is a wasteful spending by american taxpayers. >> trish: congressman, you just had me on the path of something could get done, here. you believe in enhanced border security, but now, you don't think that the wall works. w...

Usa border. why can't we get the money we need right here in america to secure america. and one more thing. if border walls didn't work, then 7,000 caravan migrants would be running amok in this country. the wall works. it kept them out and deterred them from coming into america. >> i see the christmas tree behind you. there's a new poll out here and we've got a poll on the holidays and whether or not they're fun, right? so now it's 58% people say the holidays are fun. back in 2010 they said that only 38% thought holidays were fun. but of course we have to talk about the stress of the holidays...

Who is responsible for it. all the people pointing back and forth. when i heard him say that in the white house, it made me smile. i knew immediate reply bipartisan government and washington would be all atwitter about it. out here we don't really care who is responsible. those of houston voted for the president, who supported the president. >> it's okay, the president said in no uncertain terms repeatedly and proudly and loudly that doesn't matter? >> i don't care who is responsible. i want a wall. we have people dying every week because of opioids. 75% come across that border. and the expert...

But if we're talking about, as some senators talked about last night, better technical surveillance, more personnel, tighter border security at the points of entry where most people come in, then i'm sure that we can make some agreement on that and beef up the homeland security bill which is already a very strong bill and is a republican bill. none of these are our bills, steve. they're all republican bills. we voted for some, we voted against some. i'm not talking about everybody, but some members on our side. and the fact is we're in a agreement. we got something. the president and the repub...