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The angel moms. nancy pelosi, chuck schumer, refused refused to talk to her usual moms. they refused to go to the border talk to the experts who have putting dominic put their lives on the line every day.e. they see the wall is a moral, and effective. they were for you to look as the data, because the data shows where the wall works. you forgot one number. 138,000 criminal aliens were arrested by i.c.e. illegal aliens that commit crimes in this country. they did not appear here. they came across a southwest border. so it is terrible. >> sean: while the president do this simultaneously, mark me...

Him, he keeps his promises and means what he is saying. i went out on a limb when i said that. i also know him, if he takes a this money, he is also going in the back door like he says he is. when he says he is going to do it, he tends to do it. >> yeah, he does, sean. i'm not crazy about the emergency declaration because i'm always afraid of what liberals would doge with it, but he definitely has kept to his campaign promises, no question about that. listen, we need the wall. the wall works. what primarily bothersrs me abot this conversation about the wall amongst the liberals and some others...

Paso until 2006. the city's crime rate was already half of it's peak. there was a slight uptick in violent crime right after the completion. el paso's most up-to-date crime rate was less than 400 incidents per 100,000 people. that is not the highest in the country. but that didn't stop him from using it as an example of how well a wall works. >> el paso texas used to have very high rated of violent crime. one of the highest in the entire country. immediately upon it's building with a powerful barrier in place, el paso is one of the safest cities in our country.

Swing districts that the wall works for them regardless of the fact that a broad majority of the american public doesn't think it's necessary. >> that's right. and another thing that stuck out to me is moral, a moral duty, in talking about the situation with our border with mexico which he refers to as a dangerous southern border which is i don't think how most americans think of it and we need to be alert to the language he's using to talk about this set of issues and not be drawn too deeply into the narrative he's trying to create. immigration has been foundational to our country and who we ...

Them that they're giving republicans power. >> the entire story had been crazy and keeps on getting crazier and crazier. >> steve cornacki and victoria and dave, thank you. the president says if you want to see how a wall works, just look at el paso tex, texas. plus, new mexico responded to trump's wall by literally breaking some walls. stay with us. stay with us ♪