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Into war by john bolton. >> talk to me more about this because you have great reporting on this along with the cnn team. how divisive is it and how are we supposed to read some of the president's public statements that he actually wants a dialogue with iran? >> well, they are working on that. the president -- they had the swiss at the white house yesterday because it does seem that they are trying to establish some kind of back channel so they could talk. you saw the president saying as much publicly when people were talking about the aggressive moves and he said, no, i think they're going to ...

He's taking on the iranians, hezbollah and lebanon. this is a formidable position. idlib, the same place that was basically bombed a few days ago by chemical weapons now the syrians basically retaliated by bombing the same place. what i'm trying to say, without a sustained diplomatic strategy by the trump administration, without diplomatic engagement, without engaging the russians, iranians, the turks -- in fact, i would argue you're going to see more escalation in syria, more war by proxies. this is a formidable position. president trump must celebrate his muscular attitude that he is differe...

Argument that it was the underresourced war. he promised to get out of iraq, and he promised to commit more troops to the effort in afghanistan with the resources that he was saving in iraq. and that, in many ways, joe, it's exactly what he's done and it's what's responsible for these numbers. you know, what i think is remarkable about the afghan debate, though, is that the president wanted to have this argument about his afghanistan strategy and how well it was going next summer. he didn't want to have it this summer. and everything is speeding up. you saw when the house had to vote the other...