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Germany, russia, ukraine. those four nations coming together relatively low level. i think that is the best path for a diplomatic resolution here. let's hope vladimir putin appreciates how dangerous this would be for him in reacting to economic sanctions and potential war fighting responses from the ukrainians. >> all right. let's hope so. courtney kube, admiral james, thank you very much. next, we'll go inside president biden's meeting next hour with democrats on the senate judiciary committee and the chair of that committee joins us live right after a quick break. stay with us. t after a q...

Initiative board member. colonel vindman, i will never forget the day that you and ambassador mcfaul on this program, about six weeks ago now, predicted much of what has come to pass, tragically, in ukraine, and i'm eager to hear your thoughts on what the day held and what the coming days hold for ukraine. >> i think unfortunately, this was, for those that pay attention to russia, pay attention to russia's war fighting that understand, to a certain extent, putin's mindset, that this war was inevitable. the question was really a matter of time, and he picked his time now because he thought the ...

Argue they have not been bound by them to begin with. how complicated is it if an american, i guess, gets killed in the war fighting for ukraine? >> very complicated. first of all, well, if they get killed it's unclear whether or not the geneva convention rules will be followed in terms of reclaiming their bodies, and also potentially drags the united states into war, and if you see americans getting killed on the front lines and it adds a dimension, and in the event they are captured they could become part of the kremlin's propaganda machine as evidence as what the kremlin claims is an americ...

Ukraine after this war is over. now, i don't think that's possible, because the russian -- the ukrainian will to fight is so great that, sure, russia will make some gains, but they won't be able to hold them because it will be guerilla warfare. >> let's talk about what's happening on the ukrainian soldiers' side. if we look at the kyiv-controlled areas. it seems as though the ukrainians have been able to take back some ground here, at least make some progress. >> yeah, and that's not a surprise. i mean, right? in all facets of this, war fighting is a function of many things, strategy, operatio...

One person said, character above all, garrett. >> kristen, thank you. having three presidents in the front row alone is quite the tribute. general honore, what can you tell us about the lasting impact that general powell had on the military. particularly, i think about him as the singular person with so many firsts as an african-american leader in the military. > well, he's a general of our time and he lived the american story. son of immigrant parents from jamaica rose to the highest level of our military as well as a diplomatic core. he set the standards for the 21st century for war fighting...