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More effective than in dispensable nation work. >> yeah. lot of important points here. i think what we are going to do, i will let john get a final word. we are awaiting the press conference but they're clearly running over. i think we're going to do a quick hurricane update, another important story in america. may come back to some guests. john, go ahead, final word. >> katrina talked about next steps. we have been debating authorization and use of military force in these wars several years now. the 2001 authorization has been used to fight organizations that did not exist on 9/11. the real n...

Critical moment. if the united states had said we are going to take this little group of people and maybe a few hundred to a few thousand allied troops and contractors and leave them there, then that would have posed the taliban with the question of whether to escalate. and i think we would have gotten trapped into a whole series of the kinds of dilemmas president obama faced in 2008, 2009 when the situation was moving in the wrong direction and we had to either escalate and surge or accept that we were on a trajectory to losing. so no, i really don't believe that there is some sort of minimal...

He warned leaders on capitol hill this is a threat to american democracy and it is ongoing. let's listen to him right here. >> did you think this was a single attempt to get involved in our election? or do you find evidence that they will do this again? >> they're doing this as we sit here. and they expect to do it during the next campaign. >> stthat was a warning. and despite that war making, the republican lawmakers defeated a referendum. mitch mcconnell #moscowmitch. how important is that this country come together. >> this cannot be an issue where

Basic issues of right and wrong. it is worth listening to wise words from justice robert jackson from neuronberg. if we can cultivate the idea that aggressive war making is a way to the prisoner's dock rather than the way to honors we will accomplish something toward making peace more secure. or we can do the opposite. undermining america's moral leadership in the world. making it less secure at the same time. that's your reality check. >> really valuable, john, to hear the words. thank you very much for that history lesson. >> listen to the testimony that people who serve alongside these men ...

Power. it never happens. what's going to happen this time? >> so there's legislation on the floor right now that would withdraw funding for any pre-emptive strike against iran. and at any time, even if we haven't authorized a military action, the united states congress can pull funding. >> right. >> we have the powers of the purse. >> purse. was it bipartisan? >> but as you point out, congress doesn't have the willingness to do it. the republican leadership in the senate seem willing at this point to outsource all decisions about war making to the president, and, frankly, i will admit that dem...