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Where he not -- we're winning battles perhaps. we're not sure against isis we're winning battles. we're not winning quote wars. and i think this goes back to the volunteer army. the lack of engagement by the country. the country ramps itself up emotionally when there's horrendous beheading but it falls back off the radar. we go about our lives. speaking metaphorically. and we're not really engaged in this in a big way. clearly, the president does not want to be. >> the piece in the atlantic is a tour deforce about this. over reverence for the military in a weird way that politicians they are a...

A tour deforce about this. over reverence for the military in a weird way that politicians they are afraid to say a bad thing about the military look like they're saying a bad thing that we don't have this -- do we need to look internally and think we're not equipped to fight the in you war snz. >> you then end up -- if you keep going down that road, you talk about a draft again. that's something that it seems as if we're never -- the united states has moved so far beyond that. you can't even talk about that. it's so interesting. i thought the piece was really really interesting. i had a few i...

This in a big way. clearly, the president does not want to be. >> the piece in the atlantic is a tour deforce about this. over reverence for the military, in a weird way that politicians, they are afraid to say a bad thing about the military, look like they're saying a bad thing, that we don't have this -- do we need to look internally and think we're not equipped to fight the in you war snz. >> you then end up -- if you keep going down that road, you talk about a draft again. that's something that it seems as if we're never -- the united states has moved so far beyond that. you can't even tal...