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Use western media and play carlson against broadcast colleagues. >> they like that there is a person who says, are we going to fight russia because of this corrupted eastern european country that we even cannot find on the map? so, as soon as he says something that is not in this, you know, direction that they need, he's not going to be a friend any more. >> reporter: in russia's prop d propoganda war, america is fomenting. >> the idea is to torment vladimir putin. >> reporter: facing accusations of being a pro-putin stooge, carlson has defended some of his pro-russia comments and said he is n...

Country that we even cannot find on the map? so soon as he says, something that is not in this, you know, direction that they need, he's not going to be a friend anymore. >> so tucker carlson. >> reporter: in russia's propaganda war, proof doesn't matter. what counts is stopping a war they are convinced america is fer fermenting. >> at this point nato exists primarily to torment vladimir putin. >> reporter: at home facing accusations a pro putin stooge carlson defended some of its pro-russian comments saying he is not a russian agent. so will he lose his war-stopping value in russia? >> come o...

Stooge, carlson has defended some of his pro-russian comments and said he is not a russian agent. so, will he lose his war-stopping value with russia? >> come on. this poor guy from fox news -- [ laughter ] i like the idea of him being a russian spy or russian services. >> reporter: it's not the way any respectable journalist would want to be portrayed. but once inside the kremlin spin cycle here, there's no knowing how the machine will spit you out. nic robertson, cnn, moscow. >> fascinating piece there from nic robertson. well, one u.s. national security expert says russian's disinformatio...

Stooge, carlson has defended some of his pro-russia comments. and said he is not a russian agent. so will he lose his war-stopping value in russia? >> come on. this poor guy from fox news? well, i like that -- russian spy, russian -- >> it's not really the way any respectable journalist would want to be portrayed but that's part of the problem here. once you get caught up in the kremlin's spin cycle here, there's no way of telling how the machine is going to spit you out, fred. >> yes, very unsettling, but a great viewpoint that you just presented to us. thank you so much. nic robertson, appre...