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Republicans it's warlord status. and on the democratic side hillary clinton seems to have the field basically frozen. so it's going to be wild. you're going to have jeb bush it's going to seriously exploring a run. you're going to have rick perry, getting in that game. rick santorum. who is fighting for the social conservative crowd and rand paul and ted cruz the freshmen senators can't wait to get it on. >> i think it's sort of a jungle primary. i think everybody -- it's a horse race a two-year race to run for the presidency. everybody out of the gate is going to look strong. republican prima...

Straw poll so find out who is going to be their presidential front-runner. i talked about that with columnist john avalon. >> in terms of the 2012 ticket, this party is still in warlord status. there's not an obvious leader. mitt romney has been a strong contender and strong polls before. he knows how to organize. but in many ways, the heart of the crowd is with ron paul yesterday when he spoke. so we'll see. it will be very interesting, as you said, a golden globes, indicator of things to come. former vice president dick cheney made some pretty strong comments about president barack obama t...

In our politicals. >> you can look at christine o'donnell, the early beginnings of the tea party movement, what glenn beck did, what's happening now with jon stewart and steven colbert, you can call them outsiders. do outsiders have more power than in the past? >> absolutely. we are in a time when people are energized about politics. they are engaged and they are anxious because of the economy and that's good to the extent that it keeps the political establishment on its toes. just today, the fact that mike pence, a conservative congressman but not frequently mentioned in the top tier of presi...

Movement, what glenn beck did. what's happening now with jon stewart and steven colbert, you can call them outsiders, i guess. do outsiders have more power than in the past? >> absolutely. people are engaged and anxious. because of the economy. and that's good to the extent that it keeps the political establishment on its toes. just today, the fact that mike pence, a conservative congressman, but not somebody frequently mentioned in the top presidential candidates, the fact that he won the values voters straw poll shows a continuum of that attitude. and so that makes it an exciting time. a flu...