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I don't understand even though i know all women do not think a like, i don't understand the women and the men and basically the people that could still support someone with that disregard for more than half of our population. >> and you know what was interesting is that she was not the only one that had that visceral reaction. the woman that spoke to the "new york times" also came forward because when he was speaking, which you heard the tape, when he was speaking at the debate, she said wait a second, this is way too much of a coincidence. and at the end when you watched her interview she sai...

Most careful possible presentation of yourself to me. it's all scripted. i'm much more interested in what you say in the back room. and if i don't get to hear you in the back room, i don't feel like i really know what you think. you've had -- now this experience. you saw this guy out there -- he gave a good speech every once in a while. that wasn't crazy. but then you saw this. and you know the difference. how do you -- how do you watch our politics after that? >> you know, i guess -- he should be saying the same things in public as in private. >> yeah, exactly. >> and i guess maybe i expected...

But we did it because we invested in people from the public purse. and it wasn't crazy, wild spending. it was smart, targeted, intelligent. and that kind of spirit and that kind of thinking is what we need. >> well, we have whole different kind of thinking now. that was the roosevelt, truman way. it was a revolution that took place after the depression. >> right. >> so, you know, the whole thinking is now business can do everything. and the problem is of course business has no interest in doing everything. they just have an interest in doing what business does, which doesn't help build middle ...

It. and cashed in right there. did they? nope. >> meanwhile, moving ahead, enough of joy. joy-less behar. did water boarding help the government weed out the terror leader? the issue has government leaders at odds. donald rumsfeld here to tell it all with the inside story next. >> turns out he wasn't crazy. he was spot on. the usama bin laden hunter closer than anybody thought. remember that guy? now he's talking this morning. find out what he has to say straight ahead. they fill you up without filling you out. yes! v8 juice gives you three of your five daily servings of vegetables. that's wha...

Now dead, muslim arabs, killed by american pilots in a good cause but without result. i have in the mind the possibility of american planes over an arab country being used by al qaeda and around the world as propaganda. i have in mind the danger that gadhafi himself, with his wild claims that this is an american war now has warplanes overhead from the united states and can say you see, i wasn't crazy, i was right. there are lots of reasons we need to do effective things to help the rebels but they have to be effective and can't endanger people on the ground and they can't endanger the united s...