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Pursuing corruption. what vice president biden was trying to do was get the ukrainians to be more serious about investigating corruption. and that in this particular case meant getting rid of that prosecutor who wasn't doing anything and getting one in place who would actually fight corruption. the point being where his son in that company is concerned is succeeding in that, including leveraging u.s. assistance to get the ukrainians to change prosecutors and investigation corruption, would have made it more likely that that company would be investigated rather than less likely. on the face of ...

Trumpers when there's no evidence that either of them was that. what are you hearing in terms of what is that doing to the state department, to ambassadors? >> this was already a tough situation. and then on top of that, this particular ukraine case, where you see the ambassador to ukraine, yovanovitch, 30-year veteran of the foreign service, highly respected who had done hard posts. by the way, in republican and democratic administrations. i think president bush appointed her as ambassador to armenia. highly respected, well liked. fired for the apparent reason of just not willing to do the pr...

President basically ordered or directed zelensky to investigate biden and we were at a stalemate if he wasn't doing, the aid wasn't getting to him. >> cooper only testified i think for three and a half hours. a lot of the other witnesses obviously sat longer. did the five-hour delay because of the strange publicity stunt by some republicans, did that impact the length of her testimony? i mean, were you able to get through everything you wanted to find out from her? >> we got through everything. but i want to focus on this publicity step up to the plate. it was more than a publicity stunt. in t...

Host the g7 at his florida resort, he could still face a vote from the democrats condemning him for making that suggestion in the first place. how critical is that? >> well, he's not supposed to be able to use his presidential power and benefit from it by violating the emoluments clause and basically hosting the huge event at his golf course, which wasn't doing particularly well financially, and which they cannot prove that they went through the proper channels to investigate and ensure that there were all kinds of other options on the table, and that they then decided, no, we have to go with ...

Wasn't doing enough investigating. >> if you're saying -- we have corruption in ukraine, we do, we're going to say there's 50 people or 25 -- there's only one person that joe biden had fired in ukraine and it was the guy that was going after his son. >> not as aggressively enough, actually. >> hold that thought. congressman, charlie dent, go ahead. >> oh, my. i guess there's so much to say here. >> charlie. >> look, foreign assistance, of course, it's condition based. it always is condition based. but the conditions are never that you're going to investigate the political opponent, your own po...