Congress, should they wait? how do you look at the peril that donald trump is in right now. >> first, let me say, van, thank you for having me. it's good to be with you. but importantly, man, you mentioned the president coming hard at me over the course of my run for governor, and as you probably could notice, i really wasn't into taking his punches and walking away. >> not at all. >> i think, honestly, for me, i wasn't really interested in getting down into the mud with him, but i also wasn't going to allow him to throw attacks and throw punches and let them go unanswered and so for me, the s...