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Into their own country in the past as well. so they really feel that there's a historical role to play. there are perhaps some political benefits that can be derived from that. i think there is a deep sense of conviction among poles more broadly but also among the political class in poland. >> what's interesting is that the president of poland had a very tight relationship with donald trump when he was u.s. trump, a u.s. president that denigrated multilateral organizations like nato. is poland coming to the realization now that perhaps these international organizations and western cooperation ...

Republicans in there. you never answered my question. the president's not supposed to have representation at a deposition at this point. why is it okay for a member of congress to go from their oversight role to advise the president on the defense strategy? >> you're making an assumption that somehow they're saying improper things to the white house? how could they not, if they're saying anything, how could it be anything proper? if it's anything beyond what's public, how is it okay? >> that's the major problem with this entire process in my view is they're assuming what the president meant on...

Busted in there. you had republicans in there. you never answered my question. the president's not supposed to have representation at a deposition at this point. why is it okay for a member of congress to go from their oversight role to go to advise the president on a defense strategy? >> you're making an assumption that somehow they're saying improper things to the white house? >> how could they not? if they're saying anything, how could it be anything proper? if it's anything beyond what's public, how is it okay? >> that's the major problem with this entire process in my view is they're assu...

It that it wasn't pressure. what else is he going to say when he's totally dependent on the united states and nato al allies for the continuation of his efforts to push russia out of his country. clearly, they knew what was going on. these are not naive people. these are extremely smart people. they know they're going to have to mind their ps and qs. they will have to say the right thing at the right time. they can't further anger the president who clearly in the days ahead, has the power to withhold money once again. they will be careful. they are smart. they also want to deal with corruption...

Isn't what happened, you may think you see me pressuring a foreign leader, but no, that wasn't pressure, it was a perfect call. you saw him shift strategies. instead of gaslighting, now he's trying to move the goalposts and say, now it's acceptable to pressure a foreign leader. the problem is that is it's an overwhelmingly unattractive move for the american public. poll after poll after poll says americans reject that position. if that's the strategy, if that's the message he's going to push, he's putting the republican senators in a difficult position. he could have said, maybe i went too far...