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Around a subject that was very serious and saw people with their livelihoods and lives are being threatened at the time. it was the disconnect between the seriousness of what was going on and the jokey nurse of her persona at that point. she was behaving in completely the opposite way, yesterday, when she made her very tearful resignation statement. i don't remember a political figure statement. i don't remember a politicalfigure being statement. i don't remember a political figure being that publicly upsetin political figure being that publicly upset in the middle of a scandal before. however...

>> congressman, something that officer dunn said stood out to me. he said that everything is different but nothing has changed about the context he comes to the job with and you still got people who are buying and selling the big lie on capitol hill. i wonder as you listen to what happened today, how much more difficult did they make it for leader mccarthy and others to dismiss this committee? >> well, i think those officers did an extraordinary job today. the proceeding was very dignified, and the witnesses, the four officers, were very compelling. and there was not the usual grandstanding th...

Bipartisan route because there was a clear end date. they can be a little bit more flexible. they do have to strat outside strategize how to play it out. >> and, claire, someone said, oh, they have to really find a smoking gun. what, to put next to the other two? they found out trump extorted zelensky. i think it shows the depravity of the republicans in the senate and the house. the reason they didn't want a commission has nothing to do with any sense they weren't scared on that day, any sense donald trump wasn't responsible, both mccarthy and mcconnell have said so. mcconnell saying he shoul...

Immediately devolve into blaming each other for what happened. there's a lot of anger, pointing of fingers, the assignment of blame for, you know, motives and that sort of thing. bernie sanders didn't -- wasn't responsible for the guy who tried to murder a bunch of republicans on a baseball field, donald trump is not responsible for what the person did down in texas. but i do think it would be useful to cool our rhetoric generally. it seems like no one is terribly interested in that. chris: no, and nothing ever gets done. panel, thank you, we'll see you a little later. up next when we come bac...

Most important thing phil said here is whether or not the intelligence community has evidence. this administration has to ask one question here. the president has to can ask one question. when it comes to determining who has the authoritative account of what happened to jamal khashoggi, the president has to ask himself, is he going to trust and believe in the findings of the u.s. intelligence community or is he going to, as he did with vladimir putin, with kim jong-un, is he going to take the word of mohammed bin salman and -- when he says that he had absolutely nothing to do with this and tha...