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But you have to -- we had no idea up until this weekend how many killed were actually hamas organizers. now we have -- there's a lot of people that live in the gza strip that are innocent people that are lied to by hamas and there were some of those that were killed in the protests. don't they deserve to least be recognized as victims of this as well? >> they absolutely do deserve to be recognized and the reason why is because hamas is systemically been recruiting and indoctrinating terror into educational system starting in first grade, starting in kindergarten, if you look at some of the oth...
But no one was able to stop. yet again raising the question, what can this country do to stop this senseless violence? joining me now is ken jacobson from the anti-defamation league. thank you for your time tonight. >> pleasure to be here. >> page was well known to hate watch groups. what else can you tell us about him? >> i think one of the interesting factors was he was associated with the old -- one of the oldest skin head racist groups the hammer skins who you mentioned the music group. he performed two concerts in the past two years in north carolina and then in florida. so hammer skins h...