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>> i think that felix is portraying a perspective in a world of gloom and doom that wouldn't happen. there is a rational way to say to a bank, such as this, what we do with three fel-- street felo say to them, if we have the third prosecution or guilty plea, we'll take you and restructure you and sell off the pieces of the bank. we're not throwing thousands of people out of work. we're taking the pieces of your institutions and giving it to others who will fill the void. the world has not failed to have account accountants, there are ways to mitigate the collateral consequences. if we don't sa...

Itself in half, banks do this all the time. we could force them to do this. >> felix and eliot spitzer, i would love to keep talking about it. thank you for joining us. the first for the united nations is simply admitting they do have a problem. and they do have a problem. coming up. i'll be waiting for you in stall 5. it confirms your reservation and the location your car is in, the moment you land. it's just another way you'll be traveling at the speed of hertz. who emailed it to emily, who sent it to cindy, who wondered why her soup wasn't quite the same. the recipe's not the recipe... oh...

Five years, or seven years that as president clinton conceded in his op-ed piece, you could not imagine the change 15 years ago. or 18 years ago. it is just inconceivable, the society -- societal switch and the switch in public opinion. that is not to say that the country is united in its view on this issue. and there are many people who believe and continue to believe, and for all i know the supreme court will say that well, society may change but society has a way to change and that is through the democratic process by changing the law. >> do you think given that, that the defense of marriag...

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And then they come into power and they are creating just week by week, huge uncertainty over the next crisis. will we shut down the government at the end of the month? will we go into a debt ceiling crisis in the summer? will the sequester actually remain or go away? they really had in 2010, when they said all washington needed to do was get a bit more certainty, get out of the way. since coming in, they have made it their mission to create a pretty much unprecedented sort of crisis uncertainty that we just haven't ever seen before. >> well, not only the uncertainty, but they also in their hea...