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You also covered the reagan administration. >> yeah, certainly i sought lighter moments in the reagan administration. i think the reagan administration was a little bit more formal than the obama administration. and look, you have to laugh every once in a while, we have to have some fun. because, there's a lot of stressful hours the take place within the white west wing. and every once in a while you have to have a little bit of fun. >> the book includes some images from serious and important moments as well, not just a fun ones, you mentioned. the situation room inside the oval, four key nego...

Reduce the camera, so the people around you are not, in one way, either performing for the camera, or mindful that you are there, and in some ways infringing upon what they want to talk about? >> i, mean i think a lot of it had to -- i was in every meeting. i was there every day. i became like, part of the presidency. i wouldn't say i was a fly on the wall, but i was pretty close to being a fly on the wall. and i think i just had a knack, for being able to keep myself really on intrusive, and almost just kind of blend in with what was taking place. >> so i just became part of the everyday aspe...