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sending a very clear message to voters at home. biden didn't use trump's name, but he made it abundantly clear who he was talking about. >> we talk about democracy. american democracy we often talk about the ideals of life, liberty, pursuit of happiness well, we don't talk about is how hard it is. how many ways we're asked to walk away, how many instincts are to walk away? the most natural instinct is to walk away to, be selfish, to force our will upon others to seize power. never give up american democracy asks the hardest of things to believe. that we're part of something bigger than ourselves so democracy begins levers, begins when one person decides there's something more important themselves something more important than themselves. >> a clear message to trump who
corrective for something like this? a nonviolent offense like this? we are over incarcerating nonviolent offenders way too much in this country, and this is a prime example of somebody who should not be a judge. there are many other ways to make the situation work. >> cindy young is the clerk for esmeralda county in nevada. she is undergoing withering criticism and a recall petition. she is a republican trump supporter, and there are people in that county that believe that there was problems with the election, is trump only won a county of about 700 people by about 82%. in this wonderful story in the new york times about this clerk was being criticized by her neighbors and all the people she has known for life is a reminder that democracy is not a mountain. it's not a building. it exists because of local officials, and the reason why the 2020 election was not overturned was because of these
political cost to seeing all of these right wing conspiracy theorists go up in flames and be outed for what they are. >> you would think there could be. in some ways, this is all kind of happening on one side. these live by an large on the right. it is not like they are out there very separate from the mainstream of the republican party. you have donald trump closely interacting with them. the alex joneses of the world. mark meadow was chief of staff. there's a lot of very close tie in between what he does, what the republicans do. it is a lot of fertile material for democrats to work with. but how do you make it something that is viable for a political campaign environment? and you could say look, this is a very, very corrupt group of
maybe i can do the thing that donald trump offers uniquely in my memory of american presidents, which is the ability to dictate actual policy. the ability to get favors. i feel like this is the other part of the trump administration echoes unfavored, because he is for sale. look at the adelson family. go down the list of donors and what do you get? and so if you're tech billionaire ceo philosopher king -- that's what these guys really want to be -- they may think trump is an idiot, and i think they do, but they also think they can puppeteer him and ways and they can help him run the country. that is something that joe biden does not offer them. >> in some way, is this like creating putin's oligarchs here? >> you know, i'm listening to you, and i'm like, i can't believe were here again talking about trump again and again. >> there's a real chance he
the same about clarence, can't say the same about alito tim for weeks, we were hearing from republicans that judge juan were shawn here in new york, could not possibly be impartial because he made $35 contribution to democrats in 2020 only 15 of that went to biden. >> the biden campaign, i guess specifically how can republicans make that claim while not even batting an eye at what's going on in these disclosure forms. >> that's the problem that i have, is that to be intellectually honest, you have to apply it to both sides. and so if you're going to say that justice merchan, the judge, marsha, and he has to recuse himself. you have to kind of go both ways on it. and that's why i do think that having some type of reasonable regulations in place that would really limit all judges and keep them keep them from any appearance of impropriety and i'm not
alito is taken, gets a free tickets hoodie in the bowl, fresh and hooting the blowfish have the case in for the supreme court. i would expect same alito to recuse himself like one of the ways that we could reform our ethical system here is to simply require, not leave it up to their discretion, not leave it up to like their best of intentions, but simply require justice it says to recuse themselves from cases where they have a puritan financial interest or some other political connection, right? we have nine of these people for a reason, right? we can we can have cases with eight justices. we can have cases. what seven justices. so even though i don't think there's any he equivalency between ketanji brown, jackson disclosures, and clarence thomas's disclosures, the underlying ethical issue here is still quite clear to me. if beyond say is in front of the supreme court can conjure brown jackson should step aside, and i'm sure she would can't say
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