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international correspondent fred pleitgen with more. as i was mentioning, no claim of responsibility. the m.o., though, in keeping with attacks we've seen before. claimed by isis. >> think that i that's clear to say, claimed by isis. it isn't clear if isis is behind them. if you look at the berlin attack. amri said he was doing this as someone who was fighting for isis. so yeah, this looks like those vehicle attacks that we've seen in places like nice, places like berl berlin, in sweden as well before this. that's something the investigators are going to be looking at. >> and this is becoming common, right? these attacks that are low-tech with knives, with vehicles that post-fact eesis claims responsibility for. they claimed responsibility for the manila incident, and that was a robbery. so it seems the more they're under pressure in the middle east the more they're trying to associate themselves with anything. >> exactly. the more they're trying to associate themselves and the more you see as i said these low-tech attacks.
because of the pressure we're.ing on them in the middle east so, they're come on this side of the ocean. therefore the security has to be multilayered. which means every measure would have to fail for a terrorist to reach his target. that's what i believe we need to see, we're going to keep having the same conversation. >> what you mean by that is the soft targets need to be protected about thor with physical barriers, things like that? because you have obviously more than one big landmark location in london. this would require sort of blast walls and all sorts of concrete barriers all across the city. >> i don't think it has to. we're not talking about terrorists -- there's the idea of good security and then there's just good security. we don't need blast walls. think what we're talking about here is if i was a terrorist and i wanted to go injury a crowd of people and i didn't have any affiliation to a sophisticated organization where i could learn how to make a suicide vest and blow people up, where would i go?