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Now turning against the president, and i think feeding into the chaos a bit, because that's why he has walked back his earlier claims. i sat here last night saying we shouldn't chide him or shame him for so-called caving, because he did the responsible thing in terms of avoiding a government shutdown. and compromising on the wall. and then he gets attacked by fox news and ann coulter, and he changes course and is now willing to shut down the government over christmas. so i don't see any other way to spin this other than chaos, especially when you add in the resignation of general mattis, which...

Country. i think as center right conservatives, people ought to stand up and say this. this nativism, isolationism, this is just not in the interest of this country. >> kristen, he laid out events that seem a million years ago. general flynn appearing before a court 48 hours ago. but is this an administration in chaos to the point where it can't run this country? >> well, i think, yes, they've been in chaos for a while. but today, it was a particularly chaotic day. and i think that you even see the chaos now bleeding into the right, which we haven't seen in the past, where you have them now tu...