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Threaten indictments unless they're really prepared to do it. there's actually a formal process where if you were being investigated, you can ask for what's called a target letter asking for your status. are you a witness, which means you're not going to be dietindi, are you a subject which is someone they're looking at or are you a target. when you get a target letter, it's a virtual certainty that you're going to be indicted. it sounds like they either gave manafort a target letter or told him orally that he is a target. and it's just not -- i mean, obviously it's not out of the realm of pos...

And i think you're going to see -- the fact that over the weekend the president gra tu we tusel decided to wade into the nfl. that controversy. i mean, this was not just, you know, divisive. >> it was unaudible. >> right. this was not just divisive. this was an attempt to say how can i distract attention, can can i gin up my base by dividing the country by not even this culture war by pouring kerosene on this culture war. this is a republican party that no longer seems interested in talking to the american voter, the swing voter, the undecided voter. it is all the echo chamber, talking to the ...