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unprecedented moment. for the first time in american history, a former president has been convicted for his criminal behavior while still serving as the presumptive republican nominee for president. donald trump calls the verdict rigged and himself, quote, a political prisoner. news break. he s not in prison. maga outrage. trump s allies including the house speaker and several potential republican vice presidential candidates are blasting the verdict and unleashing dangerous rhetoric against the justice system and our democracy itself. but, no one is above the law. president biden warns these attacks are reckless and irresponsible while trying to keep his campaign focus on issues important to voters. we ll talk about it all. the prosecution, and the politics. with congresswoman maxine waters of california and the reverend al sharpton. plus, michelle goldburg and tim miller. i m jonathan capehart an this is the saturday show. and, an historic victory for american justice,

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which can be a little numbing in the political sphere. but we have seen that they don t work in the legal sphere. you know what? i want to bring up something that speaker johnson said. his reaction to the verdict. let s play that and then we will talk about it. i do believe the supreme court should step in. obviously. this is totally unprecedented and it is dangerous to our system. i think the justices are deeply concerned about that as we are. i think they will set this straight. but it is going to take a while. you re right. the process takes a while to play out. this will be overturned guys. there is no question about it. it is just going the take some time. tim, the supreme court, do they have any jurisdiction? what is he talking about? i mean, these guys have become so presumptuous, they really think the supreme court is a political arm that will just do their bidding.

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make sure hate doesn t become law. the u.s. is already breaking last year s record for the number of anti-lgbtq laws enacted. why is this happening now? i think this is cynical politics. the extreme right has figured out an issue where they can take advantage that a lot of people don t know trans people. are not aware of the struggles of trans people. they are passing off misinformation as truth. as a result, they are getting people whipped into a frenzy so i think that it is genuinely cynical politics. every time lambda has been part of a case before the supreme court, you have won. but how concerned are you that this supreme court with its 6-3 conservative super majority, will strip us on the rights?

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it is not entirely an accident that the prosecutors secured two different five-month prison terms for weisselberg. and if they wanted to see prison time for trump, one argument they could make which would be a fair one, was that weisselberg has served two prison terms for conduct he did in part to benefit trump. if you have trump s cfo going to prison for conduct that benefited trump, why should trump get off for some of that same conduct? that would be the argument if i were the prosecutors and i wanted to send trump to prison. that would be the argument that i would make. let me play for you something that i played in the last block. and this is speaker johnson talking about getting the supreme court involved in this. i do believe the supreme court should step in. it is dangerous to our system. i think the justices on the court, i know many of them personally. i think they will set this

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he had been exposed with the access hollywood tape. where he talked about how you deal with women is to grope them and i m cleaning up what he really said. but many americans have seen that. it would have probably defeated him in his own mind. he was saying lock her up. fast forward to now. now we find 34 felonies and you got republicans saying how dare you? that s how he got there. accusing somebody of a crime. and covering up his crime when there was no crime. and what s at stake for america is if hillary clinton had become president, we wouldn t have had three supreme court justices that overturned roe v. wade, hurt voting rights, and

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