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Decision we believe he has made. part of that is the prospect of massive sanctions. >> bill: we know by now there are no sanctions from this administration until and if there is an invasion. when we woke up this morning talk of a meeting with putin. is that something that would be wise right now with the american president joe biden? >> bill, i don't think a meeting or phone call between joe biden, vladimir putin will change putin's calculus. i've said for months we should put impose sanctions for russia's aggression against ukraine and what else it does to undermine american interests. secret...

Was president trump being polite and saying he had this idea but we wouldn't act on it or is there room for some sort of cyber security? >> there's been more about creating a cyber security working group in which the u.s. intelligence community and russian services would participate. it's like inviting a criminal to solve a crime which the criminal committed. i don't see the point of inviting the russians to help us on something that we know they did. we know they meddled in our election. dan coats says the system is blinking in the same description that george tenet did around 9-11. this occu...