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Before they could pledge to support the fifth. right now i'm learning from the source that there are nine house democrats, and it speaker pelosi is trying to work through those members and hopefully change their minds and are hoping that reconciliation framework in the text that's out is going to be enough, and house republicans that are, that's a high 15 but it's a safe ten. it's a tough calculation for pelosi who did not like to bring the vote to the floor and include in her web count, and that from a democrat standpoint, and the credit if that were to succeed. it's a tough call for pelosi, ...

And the number according to the latest web count goes as high as 14. you can only lose 42. many will say my taxes will go up if i lose that deduction? >> that's just not true, and i'm from california, so what we do in this bill is you lower the rate and you double the standard deduction. fewer people actually have to itemize, but the other thing that we do here is we eliminate the amt. if you take a household in california that has a high salt, what happens is that it's actually worth more than that and we eliminate there. we also keep property tax, the average property tax -- go >> martha: up...

Has the votes on graham-cassidy. i guess you can say it was aggressively dishonest comment. the fact is, by our web count, looking at the votes for all this, they don't have the votes to pass graham-cassidy. you heard the president at the top of this event make reference to senator john mccain, senator lisa muck w li lisa murkowski, who said they won't. he also a senator ailing at home, although president pointed out the senator was ailing in the hospital. that's simply not the case. that's in reference to mississippi thaad do mississippi who put out a tweet recuperating at home from a health ...

Reasons, they can bring a better solution to washington. actually, i am hopeful that they do because frankly, i don't think obamacare covers people with pre-existing illnesses very affordably at all. >> jenna: there is a lot of debate about what the existing health care law is like for average americans, what this amendment might do, and as you mentioned, there is a desire by members to really understand the amendment that is being offered. we have heard different reports, wednesday, thursday. why do you need to vote on healthcare this week? what is the rush if they are still members deciding?...

Is it dead again? >> we have a good web count. i think we feel very good about where we are, where it's headed. >> white house says they feel good, but the word on the hill is things are looking grim for that revised republican plan. a live report from there. that's coming up. rounding out our agenda, don't kill me for saying it, but 2020 has already begun. >> when i got asked by ray to come up here, there wasn't a doubt in my mind even though i know it caused a lot of speculation, guys, i'm not running. okay? >> joe biden trying to downplay his interest but look where he is in new hampshire...