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Subsidies. >> there are other ways to do it. we have to keep saying that. >> come on, then. >> you're talking about the toll-free number? >> there's numbers, centers. [ overlapping speakers ] >> every time you call one of those toll free numbers they still have to go and put night a computer. and they're having trouble. >> the computers have to log onto the web site which still has all the problems. >> what i think if you knew there was a problem with the web site, which i think somebody knew, right? you could have delayed the web site portion. >> which they could have. but kathleen sebelius i...

And all this stuff is going wrong that feels like it should have been preventable. >> you reported this on your web site. this is from the administration which had a vaunted web effort during its campaign. can you imagine during the campaign if their web site had been like this during the campaign? do you think they would have stood for that? >> the whole point of them was they knew the web. they were able to reach these people especially these young people. these young people are critical to the success of this venture. and they screwed it up. >> can you imagine what it would have been if the...

With regards to the fight for civil rights in this country? >> you know, i think that more than just civil rights as it relates to, i mean, the voting rights act was a huge part of what my father and dr. king stood for and fought for and today, we still rank 136th out of 172 democratic nations. and so, we have to work to get all people to the polls, of all races and genders, to make sure that we are exercising our right as americans to vote. i think that when we walked to that ballot box, we create change. >> row tyou are the ceo of a ch called give locally.net. it is a web effort, and it is w...