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Subsidies. >> there are other ways to do it. we have to keep saying that. >> come on, then. >> you're talking about the toll-free number? >> there's numbers, centers. [ overlapping speakers ] >> every time you call one of those toll free numbers they still have to go and put night a computer. and they're having trouble. >> the computers have to log onto the web site which still has all the problems. >> what i think if you knew there was a problem with the web site, which i think somebody knew, right? you could have delayed the web site portion. >> which they could have. but kathleen sebelius i...

Those people to go on that web site to see what subsidies they're going to get and they can't. >> and they can't. >> so they can't even tell if this premium increase is going to be compensated by the subsidies. >> there are other ways to do it. we have to keep saying that. >> come on, then. >> you're talking about the toll-free number? >> there's numbers, centers. [ overlapping speakers ] >> every time you call one of those toll free numbers they still have to go and put night a computer. and they're having trouble. >> the computers have to log onto the web site which still has all the problem...