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Or is that a happy face? >> democrats decided to argue that the only problems with obamacare were the web site problems. they conceded that the web site was a mess. but that once that gets fixed, obamacare is fine. what republicans have said is that there are structural aspects of obamacare that are going to mean continued, higher premiums, higher deductibles, narrower doctor choice, narrower prescription drug choices, all of this stuff for patients as we go forward. i think what you are going to see in 2014 is which side has the stronger argument. >> steve, this healthcare was passed in 2010....

Failure. >> check this out. with obamacare comes something else that americans really don't want to face and that's new taxes. taxes that will be on our tax bill because we were talking to charles payne about this earlier this hour in our first hour of the show. he wanted to tell us about 2014 to bring in new tax fees. 2% tax on every health plan. 2.3% on medical device tax. 3.5% fee on insurers for plans sold on healthcare.gov. >> isn't that amazing? we have got to go to the web sight to get our insurance. and by doing so then, there is is a 3. a% fee for using the web site, that ends up gett...

>> is it a problem though with the deadlines? is it a problem with the web sight or is it a problem with the actual product? >> part of the thing, the president certainly for the last say three to four weeks, now that the web site has been working marginally better has been trying to say things are fine and trying to sell this as if things are going to be going okay for. this but the poll numbers are starting to show some weaknesses there even amongst democrats the latest poll numbers are changing and seeing a shift on it. >> first democrats are saying this is not going to be affecting us in 2...

Of dollars this is the day and it's not going to work. here is the question. why hasn't she been fired? >> why has no one been fired for this debacle inside the white house? >> rejiggering and creating a war room. jeffrey zions creating war room to look at the engineering. no one was fired. instead what they did was brought them all together in one room so they can work more collaboratively. >> she got up in front of congress saying november 30th this will be done and if not, today is the day, we have 55 minutes until this relaunch and it's not going to work. >> success is only 80%, mind you. ...

>> and very good at what you do. where in the heck were you for the first 184 weeks? >> mr. gody, you are right on that they should have had the a team on this and some of the a team here today were clearly there for the train wreck you guys knew there was going to be problems. you hadn't done any of the testing. why didn't you delay this? >> that's not my decision to make. >> and republican congressman trey gowdy joins us. of course, he is on that committee. so what did you learn today? >> not much. five minutes isn't long to unlock the histories of the universe. i still can't tell you why th...