MSNBC Morning Joe March 22, 2022 11:47:00
That it is actually much easier to become embroiled in a conflict than it is no extract yourself from a conflict. i think the biden administration has been very disciplined, very careful in their approach to this. but i still tend to believe it's going to get worse before it gets better. >> former secretary of homeland security under president obama, jeh johnson, thank you. >> and jeh johnson is an expert on cybersecurity, national security. one of the great lawyers in america. he also -- he's got a side gig and we want to show you what that side gig is. >> okay. it's right there on the phone....
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