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That the constitution spells out for investigation is impeachment. >> almost saying convene the trial, start a dril because then we'll have better standing in the courts to say, give us the documents. doesn't mean we'll ultimately vote for impeachment. is that what she's saying? >> that's what it seems to me, she's trying to nullify some progressives in her base but at the same time not give trump the fodder he wants. it's such a fascinating moment where you've got this weird coalition -- speaking of weird coalition, you mention pelosi and amash, the aoc trump coalition here where both parties...

Into 2020 if not past 2020 before we can get the supreme court to clarify this. in terms of the campaign impact, democrats say, these states are helping them in an odd way, if that's the way to put it. >> i spoke to parties over the weekend about this. it's very clear to me that democrats are energized about this prospect of using this issue to mobilize their base, but also to kind of persuade those few voters that are still persuadable in america that, you know, you might like your lower taxes but this is a part of the gop that's a little too extreme up. don't like trump's conduct. here's one...