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>> i think it's the thought that counts. thank you very much, abby. great to see you, good evening everyone. i'm alison camerota. welcome to cnn tonight. new legal trouble for donald trump, e. jean carroll seeking more damage is in the form of more money, above and beyond the first $5 million. because of what donald trump said in the cnn tell-all. and then there's the case of all the classified documents found at mar-a-lago. apparently donald trump's attorney took highly detailed notes about them. notes that are now in the hands of the special counsel. our panel dives into what those...

They could've cleared president nixon as well as incriminating. >> how in this case couldn't exonerate donald trump? >> if the president says, which is -- he's allowed to do to his lawyer, hey look, what are my options? and if the lawyer says, well mister president, you are the executive branch, we have all sorts of powers, you can declassify. he has what's called an advice of counsel defense. he doesn't have the criminal intent that you need to cram it a crime. on the other, hand if those notes reveal, hey, mister president, once you have a subpoena, you're not above the law, like everyone el...

Clearly brilliant legal minds at the table who can help you deal with the illegal minute shove this. i just think that what we're dealing with these issues, there's clearly more than just the letter of the law. it's also the spirit of the law, and as it relates to public opinion. i tend to agree with you that the documents cases booby traps. it's booby trapped because of the issues that are presented to president biden, not just when he was the vice president, but also when he was -- >> you don't draw a distinction between the obstruction? just because -- had documents? >> i don't think we sho...