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We ignored the corruption in the government. it was just a government that was not worth fighting and dying for, and the afghan soldiers clearly felt that way because they basically did not fight the taliban in this last surge that wound up with the taliban in kabul. >> were you surprised the speed with which things -- things fell apart? >> no. i mean i was there in 1996 when the taliban took over initially, and, you know, it was in jilalabad and the taliban delegation was across the breakfast room glaring at me suspiciously. there wasn't any fighting and it happened it happened very quickly. ...

Apart? >> no. i mean i was there in 1996 when the taliban took over initially, and, you know, it was in gilabad and the taliban delegation was across the breakfast room glaring at it happened very quickly. and so the taliban didn't fight their way across afghanistan, except for a few locations. it was all negotiated and the afghan soldiers who weren't supplied with ammunition, food or salaries, because all of that stuff was getting stolen by commanders, they were told by the taliban, if you give up, we won't kill you. of course they did. it makes sense. i didn't surprise me at all. once they w...

Cities that were closer to tripoli. as they retreated back, it was a function that they weren't supplied and equipped. and even after the french recognition of libya, france and other nations that wanted to help were not providing them with supplies that were useful. they'd like to see their government recognized because that creates other sets of options for them. and the no-fly zone is increasingly part of the package, not because they want to see western fighters and whatnot coming in and doing the job they want, but because they felt that it would be impossible for them to get the intellig...