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Should. [ overlapping speakers ] >> his relationship with capitol hill? would that be another example for you he leaves it to others? >> if you talk to people on the hill, republicans have a huge amount of hatred. way beyond what it should be. but i think if you talk to democrats you find they find he's disengaged. i have a theory, may be wrong, in the domestic side, i think to a considerable degree in foreign policy, he has centralized power in the white house. he's disempowered a lot of people in the cabinet agencies. they're treated much more like staff than real cabinet officers. he's not ...

In the domestic side, i think to a considerable degree in foreign policy, he has centralized power in the white house. he's disempowered a lot of people in the cabinet agencies. they're treated much more like staff than real cabinet officers. he's not the first president to do this. but when he brought power into the white house he did not set up a team in the white house who could really run the government with all that power. that's which think he's had some problems. >> i agree with you on how difficult it is to understand techie speak. but there's also been some very clear memos that have ...