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The willingness to mislead people or provide them just demonstrably false information and expect to move on. we've seen that most recently in the health care debate over if you like what you have you can keep it. something we can go back to 2010 and demonstrate that the department of health and human services knew was false. >> jim, he's running for re-election next year. >> is that an excuse. >> a lot of democrats running in the south and i think you guys have the story on this, a lot of democratic senators running in the south next year are hearing that over and over again and will have a re...

Why? because there's been no established increase of voter fraud. in fact, there's been an established number that a fraction of 1% have found voter fraud. yet they're trying to change the voter laws all over this country. look again and listen to what cornyn said. >> you won't corporate with legitimate congressional investigation and you won't hold anyone including yourself accountable. your department blocks states from implementing attempts to combat voter fraud. >> block states from implementing attempts to block voter fraud. what voter fraud? we've gone over and over again there are no cl...

Lot about fast and furious. i do know this was start eed unr george bush. i know mr. holder ended it. but i know a lot of us that are concerned about voting. and for cornyn to say that part of the reason he should resign is because he has the justice department looking into the whole question of changing voting in states where you and i, the congressional caucus, civil rights groups have established there is no fraud. how do you say the attorney general ought to resign for protecting people's voter rights? >> well, i think that the sad thing about this is that in the united states of america, ...

Democracy. and for us to have to deal with a problem that doesn't exist and then ask the attorney general to resign because he wants to make sure that in a democracy everyone has a fair chance to vote is just asinine and shows you just how low we have sunk. i mean, we are going down, down, down in terms of credibility. not only to the people of this country but in this world. i'm here in kansas city and i talk to people and no matter what side they're on, they are disgusted at what they see. and people still continue to do it. >> chairman cleaver, thank you so much for your time tonight. >> go...

I like heat in a certain way. i will. you are somewhat more traditional politicians than me. 2.5 years ago i was not thinking in terms of politics. many of you have been doing it all of your lives. i will take all the heat. you are not that far away from comprehensive immigration reform. if you want to go the final step, should you do it. if you want to study earmarks so we all get together and do something, i think you should study it. >> about the reality of the situation and take off from what cornyn and graham have said about the necessity of you working with us and you are doing that by h...