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Into interfering into the american election, when you are involved in trying to potentially cause the firing of an american ambassador, there is a lot of legal trip wires out there. whatever else rudy guiliani was earlier in his career there is a lot of evidence the last year he is no longer as careful a lawyer as he once was. it is no shock he find himself under legal scrutiny even if it does not produce an indictment or charges. >> matt when you look at the president kind of waffling back and forth about rudy guiliani and his past support of allies and people who work for him like michael co...

Fact was so fundamentally and existentially wrong with what the trump campaign did. and i just want to say one more thing. this is a challenge not just for democrats and republicans and impeachment. this is also a challenge for us in the media analysts, reporters whatever else. how will we interpret, use, analyze information known to be given to a campaign by a foreign entity, stolen in wikileaks sharz on other cases. let me put it this which. it's not norway. it's not norway it's russia or china. it's time for us to think about how will we use the information, report and analyze that informat...

Let me talk with you about this. master burns, what do you make of this? trump over there blasting biden? making a fool of abe by saying he has nothing to fear from weapons that could have reached him from north korea. whatever else. backing kim jong un against the un security council. >> i can't remember any american president saying anything quite like this where you side with one of the worst human rights violators in the world. a tyrant with the former vice president. most americans, almost all american s would say it's outrageous for the president to comport himself on this and any conver...

Investigation further and she got some good information which she can now take and say, this is the basis for why we should take further allegations whether it's the bank fraud allegations, possibly fraudulent bank statements, tax returns, whatever else. she did a really nice job. whoever prepped her did a fantastic job. >> good to see you, joe, thank you very much on all of that. let's talk about the democrat who oversaw cohen's hearing. if cohen mentioned your name, expect to hear from his committee one way or another. and some of the names that cohen mentioned, names from trump's inner ci...

Of that nature. >> no, nor did they have the abundant amount of information, documents, testimonies, other types of things that the special counsel would have so that they can, in fact, try to pulse these things off of the various people who they were interviewing. so the special counsel's team, i'm sure, has so much more information that they've been able to leverage in order to get to the truth. that's why i think everybody should take a step back and breathe and not make any conclusions about whether or not there was criminal conspiracy. whether or not there was, in fact, active efforts on ...