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>> there were six or eighth people present and two agents conducting the interview. >> so as i understand it, there were two agents and two prosecutors. >> correct. >> this is an e-mail send in february 2016 from page to mccabe. page: you surely considered this but in my view, the best reason to hold the line at two and two, is she might be our next president. how did you feel about that? >> we were concerned about it and we lay out here why we were concerned. >> let's keep talking about this interview. one of the fbi agents said on election day to another fbi agent, you should know that i'm w...

>> i'll be clear. i can't speak to whether mccabe was there or not. >> did you ask him? >> we did. he said he didn't recall. >> so one of them is lying. so i want you to reopen this investigation and come back and tell us, do you believe strzok or do you believe mccabe? you told me the deputy director of the fbi says he's not the andy. >> just to be clear, they're talking about what -- a conversation in his office. he's claiming he's saving, he's doesn't recall if he's there or not. neither of those individuals -- >> all i'm saying is the andy's office where in occurred, he wasn't there. what ...

Distraction is happening in the chaos of the white house from the mueller investigation, from the stormy daniels investigation and from the overall effect of trying to taint the fbi and mueller and the department of justice and whether mccabe has been denied due process. i can't believe he's already had a hearing that would be entitled to any senior person such as himself before he gets fired. he hasn't had a chance to defend himself and tell his side of the story, so i don't think we should jump to conclusions that he's innocent or that he's guilty. we need to see the full evidence. and in th...

Any apparent bias on the trump side. >> look, i agree. michael horowitz is his name. mccabe disputes whether mccabe was candid, but horowitz judged otherwise. my push back with ruth just has to do with the timing of this. notwithstanding when his retirement would have been. it's 100% clear this was driven from the white house for the petty reason of stripping him of his pension. that's wrong. >> i want to repeat what andrew mccabe said to "the new york times" tonight. the idea i was dishonest is just wrong. he said, this is part of an effort to discredit me as a witness. and he means as a witn...

Whether mccabe was rotten or the department of justice is no longer functioning without bias, both of those help vladimir putin because they undermine the credibility of our justice system. and the truth of the matter is vladimir putin is not sitting in his cabinet meetings looking at a bunch of emts chapty chairs o revolving door. he has a fully staffed national security apparatus. so that is advantage russia again. but the fact is that we have a lame duck syndrome permeating the administration right now. we had it with tillerson. we have it with mcmaster unfortunately. i think he has an expi...