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Whether mccabe is there for now. this is the gift that keeps on giving. mccabe says, this attack on my credibility is one part of a larger effort not just to slander me personally but to taint the fbi, law enforcement and intel professionals. it's part of this administration's ongoing war on the fbi and the efforts of the special counsel investigation which continue to this day. their persistence in this campaign only highlights the importance of the special counsel's work. not to say, alan dershowitz, that's he prejudicing the special counsel's work. i think that part of his statement is very...

So this is the beginning of a new and fresh start. we've been wondering, how did these leaks happen? how are the stories getting to the press the last 1 1/2 years on donald trump and the investigation? now we see it was coming from andrew mccabe and from james comey himself. the question i have, remember when comey went and briefed donald trump on the dossier? no one reported on the dossier until someone leaked that comey was briefing the president on the -- or the president-elect, donald trump, on the dossier. they leaked that to cnn. every news outlet could report on the dossier. the leaking...

So this is the beginning of a new and fresh start. we've been wondering, how did these leaks happen? how are the stories getting to the press the last 1 1/2 years on donald trump and the investigation? now we see it was coming from andrew mccabe and from james comey himself. the question i have, remember when comey went and briefed donald trump on the dossier? no one reported on the dossier until someone leaked that comey was briefing the president on the -- or the president-elect, donald trump, on the dossier. they leaked that to cnn. every news outlet could report on the dossier. the leaking...

Democratic administrations. this is not someone who had any apparent trump bias. >> i agree. micha michael horwitz has a reputation for thoroughness. mccabe disputes whether mccabe was candid but horwitz judged otherwise. my push back to ruth, i take her point, has to do with the timing of this, notwithstanding when his retirement was. it's 100% clear this was driven by the white house for the petty reason of stripping him of his pension. that's wrong. that's not the way it's supposed to work. >> i want to repeat what andrew mccabe said to the "new york times" tonight. the idea i was dishonest...

Out and whether people are realizing how much distraction is happening in the cast at the white house from the mueller investigation from the stormy daniels investigation, and from the overall affect of trying to taint the fbi and mueller and the department of justice. and whether mccabe has been denied due process. i cannot believe he's already had a hearing that would be entitled to any senior service person, such as himself, before he gets fired. he hasn't had a chance to defend himself and tell his side of the story. so i don't think we should jump to conclusion that is he's innocent or th...