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Here's my phone number. call me if we ever are not cooperating fully. the white house cooperated at every stage in 1998 and all this white house is doing is obstructing. i think that's ultimately undermining their case. it would be nice to have mcgahn, bolton, mulvaney, but i think the case now is just so overwhelming, the totality of the evidence is just so uncontestable that i'm not sure waiting three or four months really is worth it. >> you say this is unprecedented, that this case of executive privilege, of absolute immunity has not been argued in the courts in this way because ultimately...

Consumption? >> oh, sure. i think sometimes they use soaring rhetoric, you know, imagining that it will be etched into the stone above a doorway someday, but i also think that there is a lot of substance in this opinion. it does go on for 120 pages but today is the great day for the rule of law and that is what is the ultimate conclusion that she writes here that presidents are not kings, that we have this tripart form of government and it's very important that we maintain the checks and balances and so i think at its heart, it's a very patriotic opinion. >> the -- heading into this, we've bee...

Executive wants to run the clock. in all previous administrations they've abided by norms. they've never really argued this absolute immunity the way they argued in the mcgahn case yesterday. i think this administration, one of the problems is that it keeps pushing the limits, testing the outer limits of what should go down as acceptable in a democratic system. and if they want to run the clock, if they want to push those limits, they can run the clock. i think the democrats really don't need the testimony, although it would be helpful to have the testimony particularly of the three or four ve...

Someone who might try to be too powerful, might be involved in self-dealing, corruption or inviting foreign countries into interfering with our elections. so we haven't come across this in a generation, thankfully. you don't want to be doing this every year. it's a very serious, very solemn occasion and it's important that we educate ourselves, those of us who need to be crafting, drafting, amending, voting on possible articles of impeachment. but the american public has a right to know. i think of the young people in my office. they were not around during the time of the clinton impeachment, ...

Opinions knowing there's going to be sufficient public interest that it might get read on tv, it might get read in classrooms, that it might become essentially a document that's for public consumption? >> oh, sure. i think sometimes they use soaring rhetoric, you know, imagining that it will be etched into the stone above a doorway someday, but i also think that there is a lot of substance in this opinion. it does go on for 120 pages but today is the great day for the rule of law and that is what is the ultimate conclusion that she writes here that presidents are not kings, that we have this t...