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Started reading the grand jury report. the pennsylvania department of health, the pennsylvania department of state, and the philadelphia department of public health and safety, they had ample opportunity to investigate and to shut gosnell down. >> joe, the doctor's staff, they seemed completely untrained. the chief anesthesiologist i understand had only a 7th graded indication. >> that's correct. linda williams testified this week she never went beyond 7th grade. and eventually got some training as a phlebotomist. but really didn't work in that job. she was working at another abortion clinic i...

Seemed completely untrained. the chief anesthesiologist i understand had only a 7th graded indication. >> that's correct. linda williams testified this week she never went beyond 7th grade. and eventually got some training as a phlebotomist. but really didn't work in that job. she was working at another abortion clinic in delaware, sterilizing instruments. that's where she met gosnell. and later, after her husband was murdered, and she was going through problems, gosnell agreed to hire her under the table, and then gradually trained her in different skills needed for the abortion procedure. an...

Delaware county informed the county that he had performed an illegal abortion on a 14-year-old girl carrying a 30-week-old baby. and received notice of the 41-year-old woman's death for which gosnell faces a murder charge. none of that got the department of health to investigate. the grand jury report states in 1993, because of political reasons, the department of health stopped inspecting all abortion clinics in the state. other agencies also failed to properly investigate. the pennsylvania department of state, through its board of medicine, received a complaint a decade ago from a former emp...

Color, and the subject was the political football of abortion. so i think that absolutely played a part of it. it wouldn't be accurate to say that all of his patients were minorities. i was just talking to one of his former patients last week who was a white girl who went to a reputable clinic in maryland and that clinic referred her to gosnell. there were hundreds of women who came to gosnell from his neighborhood, but this were women who came from all over the eastern seaboard who were referred to him. >> it seemed as he became as known as the specialty who is a guy for cash, these are the a...

Grandfathered in. >> eight of his subordinates have already pleaded guilty. and so the -- at first, their defense was, well, the doctor told me it was okay. but when you have monstrous acts like this, just a doctor telling you that this is okay, you know, you as a human being are expected to understand this was a crime. >> in '93, they stopped all inspections in the state of abortion clinics. is that because of political pressure? >> that to me, and perhaps these other gentlemen can explain that to me. i'm confused why that happened. pennsylvania has been a hotbed of abortion politics. one of ...